Comments on: The Architect http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/ Faisal's Personal Blog Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:36:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.3 by: Muhammad Saqib Ilyas http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-104 Wed, 07 Sep 2005 18:59:00 +0000 http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-104 Quite a nick, I got! I learnt about that from Adna. On free will: Take for example, the earning. You will get not more not less than your allotted rizq. It is your choice whether you want to earn it as halal or haram. So, we do have some amount of free will and in other ways, we are limited. Miracles do happen. Quite a nick, I got! I learnt about that from Adna.
On free will: Take for example, the earning. You will get not more not less than your allotted rizq. It is your choice whether you want to earn it as halal or haram. So, we do have some amount of free will and in other ways, we are limited. Miracles do happen.

]]> by: M.Munir http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-103 Wed, 07 Sep 2005 09:02:00 +0000 http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-103 Faisal said: <I>"There's another variable in the game of humankind... and that is FREEWILL!"</I> The existence of Freewill is challengeable! In my opinion, our decisions are determined by our understanding and understanding is gifted by nature to us (We all are the part of nature, by the way). So I can’t agree on the concept of freewill completely. We do what our understanding tells us. If we look this matter as OOP point of view, we (objects) behave exactly according to algorithm (present in our method) with some past and present states (values) of surroundings. (Interference of other objects’ behaviors can be considered as LUCK :) ) <I>"Anything that man has invented is flawed and is prone to failure."</I> How can we conclude this? There is nothing like flaw or flawless. We do what we are made to do. All credit must go to Programmer (OOP came again). Faisal said: “There’s another variable in the game of humankind… and that is FREEWILL!”

The existence of Freewill is challengeable!
In my opinion, our decisions are determined by our understanding and understanding is gifted by nature to us (We all are the part of nature, by the way).

So I can’t agree on the concept of freewill completely. We do what our understanding tells us. If we look this matter as OOP point of view, we (objects) behave exactly according to algorithm (present in our method) with some past and present states (values) of surroundings. (Interference of other objects’ behaviors can be considered as LUCK :) )

“Anything that man has invented is flawed and is prone to failure.”

How can we conclude this? There is nothing like flaw or flawless. We do what we are made to do. All credit must go to Programmer (OOP came again).

]]> by: Faisal Nasim http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-102 Wed, 07 Sep 2005 07:15:00 +0000 http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-102 To Saqqu bai (that was your codename in the univ!): I can't agree more! My dad gave me a good lecture on that once, when I showed him a scene from The Waking Life. Self-awareness, freewill etcetera. I gave a presentation on those concepts as well as some scientific stuff over multimedia in your very own lab! To Saqqu bai (that was your codename in the univ!):

I can’t agree more! My dad gave me a good lecture on that once, when I showed him a scene from The Waking Life.

Self-awareness, freewill etcetera. I gave a presentation on those concepts as well as some scientific stuff over multimedia in your very own lab!

]]> by: Muhammad Saqib Ilyas http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-101 Wed, 07 Sep 2005 05:04:00 +0000 http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-101 Free will is another debate in itself. Man, yes, that's the jewel in the crown. It wasnt called ashraful makhlooqat for nothing. Better than the angels. And then the point that was made in The Alchemist, too, about discovering vs learning. When we learn, as the novel symbolized learning from the desert, from the sheep etc. We're just discovering things. An infant knows a lot of things. The brain is full of information, it only needs to be discovered. Free will is another debate in itself. Man, yes, that’s the jewel in the crown. It wasnt called ashraful makhlooqat for nothing. Better than the angels.
And then the point that was made in The Alchemist, too, about discovering vs learning. When we learn, as the novel symbolized learning from the desert, from the sheep etc. We’re just discovering things. An infant knows a lot of things. The brain is full of information, it only needs to be discovered.

]]> by: Faisal Nasim http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-100 Wed, 07 Sep 2005 02:25:00 +0000 http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-100 To Sarfu: When you go deeper and deeper into the concepts of programming, you'll only realize that they get even simpler. All the ideas of object-oriented architecture, service-orientation mechanisms, database systems are borrowed from reality. Learning the way of nature is the key to understanding major concepts of a varsity of disciplines. Its much more than just backward compatiblity and exception handling... sheesh... my thought process is overburned when I think about all the distinct possibilites and the variables associated, sometimes I think its too complex but there are times I think its extremely simple but the direction we think is the limiting factor. Einstein said this for a reason you know: <I>I was born intelligent, but the education ruined me</I>. Stay healthy... stay foolish. To Sarfu:

When you go deeper and deeper into the concepts of programming, you’ll only realize that they get even simpler. All the ideas of object-oriented architecture, service-orientation mechanisms, database systems are borrowed from reality. Learning the way of nature is the key to understanding major concepts of a varsity of disciplines. Its much more than just backward compatiblity and exception handling… sheesh… my thought process is overburned when I think about all the distinct possibilites and the variables associated, sometimes I think its too complex but there are times I think its extremely simple but the direction we think is the limiting factor. Einstein said this for a reason you know: I was born intelligent, but the education ruined me. Stay healthy… stay foolish.

]]> by: Faisal Nasim http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-99 Wed, 07 Sep 2005 02:18:00 +0000 http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-99 To Munir: <I>Is not man himself included in the wonders of this immaculate nature?</I> There's another variable in the game of humankind... and that is FREEWILL! To Munir:

Is not man himself included in the wonders of this immaculate nature?

There’s another variable in the game of humankind… and that is FREEWILL!

]]> by: M Shoaib Sheikh http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-98 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 09:34:00 +0000 http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-98 Gud write-up ............. Gud write-up ………….

]]> by: FM http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-97 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 09:24:00 +0000 http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-97 Like Sir noman said : No one is willing to take the responsibility :). We want excellent results but we dont toil for it thats the main problem. with regards fM Like Sir noman said : No one is willing to take the responsibility :) . We want excellent results but we dont toil for it thats the main problem.

with regards
fM

]]> by: Zeeshan Muhammad http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-96 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 07:41:00 +0000 http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-96 Amazing post and very true indeed!. Glad to know you also believe in parallel existances and multiple realities. I wonder what's my counterpart is doing right now! Amazing post and very true indeed!. Glad to know you also believe in parallel existances and multiple realities. I wonder what’s my counterpart is doing right now!

]]> by: M.Munir http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-95 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 03:25:00 +0000 http://www.nasim.org/blog/2005/09/04/the-architect/#comment-95 Really a nice entry Faisal!! Faisal said: "The immaculate nature of this universe clearly reflects His interest and devotion. The wonders of nature are in perfect harmony while anything that man has has invented is flawed and is prone to failure." Is not man himself included in the wonders of this immaculate nature? Really a nice entry Faisal!!

Faisal said: “The immaculate nature of this universe clearly reflects His interest and devotion. The wonders of nature are in perfect harmony while anything that man has has invented is flawed and is prone to failure.”

Is not man himself included in the wonders of this immaculate nature?

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